In today's 21 News podcast, anchor Jennifer Brindisi speaks with Dr. Ben Neuman, Niles native and world-renowned virologist from Texas A&M about herd immunity.

That often-talked about goal of getting enough people vaccinated that Covid-19 goes away is now looking like something we may never achieve. But what does that mean and if we don't achieve it, can we still get back to regular life without fear?

Listen up!